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. MINUTES OF THE OLD ENCINITAS CAB
July 23, 1987
8 Meeting called to order 7:00 p.m.
Chairman Harry Couglar noted for the record that all members were
present.
Staff Present: Assistant Planner Tom Curriden, Planning
Technician Jim Kennedy
Pledge of Allegiance
Agenda Item # 3 - General From Staff
Planner Curriden informed the CAB that the City's General Plan
consultants had asked if they could meet with the CAB to get
their input as to the general community characteristics and
objectives for the General Planning process.
Planner Curriden asked if the CAB could be available for such a
meeting on August 20 from 5:00 to 6:30 p.m. prior to the
regularly scheduled CAB meeting. Two members, Gail Hano and
Peter Tobias indicated they would not be able to attend. Mr
Curriden asked if the members would be able to attend prior to
the subsequent meeting of September 10, and all members indicated
that they could.
8 Agenda Item #4 - Oral Communication
Edna Palmer of 885 Requeza stated that she had come to speak
regarding an Osteopathic College presently in the planning
process. She said she represented the Rancho Requeza Homeowner's
Association who are opposed to the project. She also said that
the Association may not be against the project if they kept their
traffic off of the local residential streets, and that they would
like to see a 3 acre park to buffer the project from the adjacent
neighborhood.
Agenda Item #5
Planner Curriden stated that two items had been continued to the
meeting of August 6 at the request of the applicants: (1) DR87-
0103, design review for the addition of a unit on a site
containing an existing single family dwelling for applicant
Barbara Cope at 1085 Gardena, and (2) design review for a
proposed expansion and remodel of an existing auto repair
facility at 110 North Highway 101 for applicants Edith and Hugo
Hahn.
Agenda Item 5 a.
8 87-002DR; Design Review - Peter Kuhns, applicant 1010 First
street, Old Encini tas, for an exterior remodel and landscape
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modification to the Old Market Place, within the C-36 zone.
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8 Planner Curriden gave a summary of the proposal orally, stating
the reasons why the application was continued from the previous
meeting and what steps the applicant had taken to address those
concerns.
Peter Kuh.ns, applicant, showed the members how brass supports
could be used to support the awnings from the fascia. He then
asked the CAB if similar "dome" awnings to the ones presently in
place could be used if the brass supported ones turned out to be
impractical.
Harry Couglar stated that it was his sense from the first meeting
that, in order of preference, the CAB would like to see (1)
ground supported awnings as approved, (2) brass rod supported
awnings that are not ground supported, and (3) "dome" awnings
with the same aqua and white coloration.
Peter Tobias stated that he would actually prefer to see "long
awnings with no poles in the ground".
Harry Couglar said he agreed with Mr. Tobias because he didn't
want to see potential problems with City liability. Mr. Couglar
then asked the applicant for clarification as to whether several
of the signs presently in place were proposed to remain. Mr
Kuhns indicated they were.
e Mr. Couglar then stated that he did not feel excessive use of
neon to not be in character with the Old Encinitas area and could
appear "trendy". He said that he could support the large neon
slgn on the east and north faces of the structure, but that he
would prefer the others proposed not be installed.
Peter Kuh.ns stated he would like the small neon sign on the east
facing wall of the tower at the northeast corner of the building
to remain.
Tony Kauflin stated that he wanted to be sure that the neon signs
were "can" signs such that the neon elements would be within
channels in the form of letters, so that light would not project
out from the sides. Mr Kuhns assured Mr. Kauflin that channel
lettering was being used for the neon sign.
Gail Hano then moved that the application be approved as to the
sign program and landscape plan as proposed, and with the
awnings, as proposed preferred, but with the other 2 alternatives
identified in this report acceptable if the ground supported
awnings could not be installed.
The motion was seconded by Peter Tobias and approved 4-1, with
Harry Couglar casting the "no" vote. The meeting was adjourned
at 7:37 p.m.
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