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1990-07-16 . Ci~V q{ NEW ENCINITAS COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD Encinit~, Minutes PLACE OF MEETING: CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 535 Encinitas Boulevard, Suite 100 Encinitas, CA 92024 PLANNING DEPT. (619) 944-5060 Monday, July 16, 1990 - 7:00 PM 1. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL community Advisory Board Members Present: Anne Patton, Cindy Beck, Greg Grajek, Ruthanne White, William Quinn Community Advisory Members Absent: None . Staff Members Present: Linda Niles, Associate Planner Diane Langager, Junior Planner 2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 3. BUSINESS General discussion and review of sign criteria for the New Encinitas Community Advisory Board Area. The Board discussed, in general, issues regarding sign criteria for the New Encinitas area. The following issues/concerns were raised: - needs of retailers (economically) vs. needs of City (aesthetically) - lighting; intensity; backlit vs. front lit - too much variety i.e. colors, letter styles - whether to allow corporate logos and letter styles - whether to differentiate between local retailers and national retailers - Board prefers wood signs - signage should relate to building . - more colors can be used with wood signs - being able to locate business through the use of signs - address on monument signs DL/02/CAB20-1990WP5 (9-14-90-1)1 QV., ~r7 Encinitas Bou!evarù. Enc'initas, California <)202-1 TEL ()I') t)cf+~O~O! FAX ()I<)-Ö.\2-'}¡'Ì:\() 16'& recycled paper . As part of the discussion the Board made the following motion: Motion: Board Member Grajek - To require that all monument signs shall be of natural materials, wood, wood- like, tile and/or stucco and shall not be internally lit. Second: Board Member White Vote: Ayes - Patton, Beck, Grajek, White Nays - Quinn Absent - None Abstain - None After the motion Associate Planner Linda Niles informed the Board that such a regulation would require an amendment to the sign ordinance by the City Council through a public hearing process. Property owner Michael Siegal participated in the discussion and requested that the Board consider allowing the business community time to put together a presentation for the City's and community's review that would show the types of signs that could be used that serve the business owner's purpose and can meet the City's desire for more aesthetically pleasing signing. . In concluding the discussion the Board made the following motion: Motion: Board Member White - To have staff look into researching signing in regards to the business communi ty 's needs and the City's needs and once said study is completed to schedule a special meeting for review and discussion of the study. Second: Board Member Quinn Vote: Ayes - Patton, Beck, Grajek, White, Quinn Nays - None Absent - None Abstain - None 4. PUBLIC HEARINGS CONTINUED A. CASE NUMBER: 90-072 ADP APPLICANT: Federal Sign Co. LOCATION: 141-215 El Camino Real DESCRIPTION: Design Review of the Proposed Sign Program . for the Multi-tenant De La Plaza Shopping Center. Continued from the meetings of May 7, 1990, June 4 and 18, 1990, and July 2, 1990. DL/02/CAB20-1990WP5 (9-14-90-1)2 . ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS: Exempt per Section 15311, Class 11a of CEQA Motion: Board Member White - To require that, in 15 years or when a new tenant requests to add signage, the existing monument sign, located at the main entrance to the De La Plaza Shopping Center, shall be reviewed through the Design Review process for conformance with the sign ordinance in effect at the time. Additionally, the sign shall be constructed of a natural material such as tile, stucco or wood and shall not be lighted internally rather it shall be lighted externally. Twelve inch address letters are required with the height of the monument sign being 8', or a maximum of 12' in height. Second: Board Member Grajek Vote: Ayes - Patton, Beck, Grajek, White, Quinn Nays - None Absent - None Abstain - None Motion: Board Member Grajek - To allow a 90-day extension . on existing grand opening banner permits in the center and to allow new tenants a 90-day period for grand opening banners, said extension is to allow signage for tenants until the sign program is established. Second: Board Member Quinn Vote: Ayes - Patton, Beck, Grajek, White, Quinn Nays - None Absent - None Abstain - None The Board discussed the following issues/concerns in regards to the project: - treatment of signs already existing - consideration of limiting the number of colors proposed - preference of wood or wood-like signing - Consideration of allowing the same kinds of signs for national and local retailers - use of national logos - allowing only the ivory color and bronze returns for the fascia signs with a variety of letter styles - allowing logos/symbols on the dormers in wood and in the standard logo color of the business . - allowing the use of logo colors for logos that are essentially the business name as long as the sign is constructed in wood or wood-like material - window signs would be allowed as per the City of DL/02/CAB20-1990WP5 (9-14-90-1)3 . Encinitas sign ordinance - do not want internally lighted channel letters - would like to see options for the exterior illumination of wood or wood-like signs - research the potential to allow increase in size for those signs constructed of wood. Motion: Board Member Quinn - To continue 90-072 ADP to the meeting of September 17, 1990 to allow for further review by the Board and to allow staff to bring back a write-up of the issues discussed tonight and possibly a resolution. Second: Board Member White Vote: Ayes - Patton, Beck, Grajek, White, Quinn Nays - None Absent - None Abstain - None B. CASE NUMBER: 90-067 DR APPLICANT: Byron F. White LOCATION: 501-521-541 El Camino Real . DESCRIPTION: Design Review and Sign Program for the first phase of Gardenview Plaza being a 37,500 sq. ft. office professional center made up of 3 one-story buildings. Continued from the meeting of June 4, 1990 and July 2, 1990. ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS: Negative Declaration issued 4/23/81 by the County of San Diego. Motion: Board Member Beck - To conceptually approve the project with the following modifications: - Wall options 1, 3 and 5 shall be allowed, with a restriction that no more than 50% of the tenant spaces can utilize the all glass option, No. 5. - The doors shall be constructed with one light with a clear fir frame all the way around the door. - The clock and the sign program shall be subject to Design Review. - The applicant shall return with an appropriate lighting design (not internally lit) with the . sl.gn program. - The programmed music shall be deleted from the project. DL/02/CAB20-1990WP5 (9-14-90-1)4 - A covenant for reciprocal access to the . property adjacent and to the north of the site shall be recorded. - The louvered screening of roof top appliances will be used in the initial phase of the project; however the landscape screening (trees) shall be planted when the second phase of the project is constructed to avoid any destruction or uprooting of trees. - The applicant shall discuss with the Department of Public Works the possibility of an elbow or center planted median strip at the transition from the office professional zone to the residential zone to the east of the project. Additionally to continue 90-067 DR to the meeting of August 6, 1990 to allow staff to return with a resolution of approval. Second: Board Member Quinn Vote: Ayes - Patton, Beck, Grajek, White, Quinn Nays - None Absent - None Abstain - None . 5 . ADJOURNMENT Motion: Board Member Beck - To adjourn at 11:15 p.m. to the next regularly scheduled meeting of this community Advisory Board to be held August 6, 1990. Second: Board Member Grajek Vote: Ayes - Patton, Beck, Grajek, White Quinn Nays - None Absent - None A proponent or protestant of record may appeal a final decision of the hearing body by filing the appeal within fifteen (15) calendar days after the hearing through the Office of the City Clerk, City of Encinitas, 527 Encinitas Boulevard, Encinitas, CA 92024. . DL/02/CAB20-1990WP5 (9-14-90-1)5